# Do SecAgg related patents by universities and companies have any implications for flower?

**URL:** <https://discuss.flower.ai/t/do-secagg-related-patents-by-universities-and-companies-have-any-implications-for-flower/196>\
**Category:** Privacy & Security\
**Created:** [April 12, 2024, 11:56am UTC](https://discuss.flower.ai/t/do-secagg-related-patents-by-universities-and-companies-have-any-implications-for-flower/196 "2024-04-12T11:56:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![richard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@richard](https://discuss.flower.ai/u/richard)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2024, 11:56am UTC](https://discuss.flower.ai/t/do-secagg-related-patents-by-universities-and-companies-have-any-implications-for-flower/196/1 "2024-04-12T11:56:19Z")

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I’m considering to use flower and it’s secure aggregation mod in a project. I stumbled upon this patent: [Systems and methods for secure aggregation in federated learning](https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2023023281A1/en) claiming some aspects of the secure aggregation protocol/ algorithm. I was wondering how you deal with it and if it’s even relevant for your implementation of SecAgg.  
Thanks in advance 🙂

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**Author:** ![richard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@richard](https://discuss.flower.ai/u/richard)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2024, 1:07pm UTC](https://discuss.flower.ai/t/do-secagg-related-patents-by-universities-and-companies-have-any-implications-for-flower/196/2 "2024-04-12T13:07:03Z")

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The said patent is not by google but University of Southern Cali. So I’m rephrasing this question to be more general. There seem to be multiple patents by google also.

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**Author:** ![mohammad](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/discuss.flower.ai/mohammad/32/35_2.png) [@mohammad](https://discuss.flower.ai/u/mohammad)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2024, 8:29am UTC](https://discuss.flower.ai/t/do-secagg-related-patents-by-universities-and-companies-have-any-implications-for-flower/196/3 "2024-07-02T08:29:23Z")

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Flower doesn’t use any of the methods from the mentioned patent in its implementation.

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**Author:** ![richard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@richard](https://discuss.flower.ai/u/richard)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2024, 9:18am UTC](https://discuss.flower.ai/t/do-secagg-related-patents-by-universities-and-companies-have-any-implications-for-flower/196/4 "2024-07-02T09:18:38Z")

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So patents in general are not really anything you are worrying about? Does this change in commercial use?

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**Author:** ![mohammad](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/discuss.flower.ai/mohammad/32/35_2.png) [@mohammad](https://discuss.flower.ai/u/mohammad)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2024, 11:32am UTC](https://discuss.flower.ai/t/do-secagg-related-patents-by-universities-and-companies-have-any-implications-for-flower/196/5 "2024-07-02T11:32:19Z")

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I should have been more clear, while we are not currently using any methods covered by the mentioned patents in Flower’s secure aggregation implementation, we always keep an eye on the evolving landscape of patents and IP in the field of FL. If any concerns arise, particularly for commercial use, we would conduct a thorough legal review to ensure compliance with relevant patents and intellectual property laws. This helps us maintain the integrity and legality of our work for both open-source and commercial applications.

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**Author:** ![richard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@richard](https://discuss.flower.ai/u/richard)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2024, 12:06pm UTC](https://discuss.flower.ai/t/do-secagg-related-patents-by-universities-and-companies-have-any-implications-for-flower/196/6 "2024-07-02T12:06:10Z")

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Thanks for clarifying

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**Author:** ![system](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/flower/original/1X/bc7fe36843c391cbd0b4e8b6f48275961d356abc.png) [@system](https://discuss.flower.ai/u/system)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2024, 12:06pm UTC](https://discuss.flower.ai/t/do-secagg-related-patents-by-universities-and-companies-have-any-implications-for-flower/196/7 "2024-07-09T12:06:43Z")

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